Deepseek V4 Flash is quickly becoming my favorite model

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Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 06, 2026 at 00:58 (edited, 8 revisions)
#1

I've been using Deepseek V4 Pro on Openrouter as my main LLM workhorse for agentic work, ever since it came out. Pi has been my workhorse harness.

Recently, I've begun using v4 Flash more than v4 Pro as my daily LLM driver. The Flash version provides an especially practical mix of capability, speed, and low cost - I'm beginning to trust it for more and more all sorts of work.

My initial proving ground for Deepseek V4 Pro and Pi was a tough project I'd been working on for several months, building a bot to automate interaction with 3rd party dashboards, using natural language queries from users, accessed via a web UI. The project involved deeply crawling the dashboards, using Playwright code to perform UI interactions with their JS-heavy interfaces.

The project required a full crawl of every single UI widget on every page of each dashboard application, complete with generated documentation of every data selection available in every widget (for example, all the values in every dropdown selector, and every text field that could be entered by the user, along with the sorts of values that a user is expected to enter in those fields). The crawling routines spidered each of the dashboard sites to create a full knowledge base which contained all the logic and recipes that a public facing agent would need, in order to understand where to look within the dashboards, for answers to any sort of natural language questions a user could potentially query at the public interface.

The crawling portion of the project required a massive volume of Playwright code to be written by an agent, to discover and document every single UI control which existed in several dashboards. That was a tremendous volume of work.

I started that project in January, using Claude Code and the various Claude LLMs. That first set of tools was successful at writing some functional Playwright code which could interact with a limited set of specific controls in 1 dashboard, but the rate limits imposed by Anthropic were debilitating. We could only run a handful of interactions each day before the API hit its limit, and the process was slow.

Next in that project, I migrated everything we had accomplished with Claude Code, to use the Goose agent instead. That change enabled us to use any LLM available on Openrouter. The project really moved forward with the help of a variety of Gemini models that didn't have rate limits. Gemini 3.1 Flash Light Preview was particularly fast, but not quite smart enough to get the job done. It was incredible to watch that model burn tens of millions of tokens overnight, unattended, in Nullclaw, for just a few dollars. But still, getting a fully working app together was a mess, because the fastest/cheapest sub-frontier class flash models still weren't quite smart enough to understand and engineer everything required to achieve our goal, and the smarter models were far to expensive to run throughout the huge crawling routine. Using the best Claude and GPT models to perform the massive volume of crawling work would have cost 10s of thousands of dollars - beyond the budget of a relatively small research grant which was driving the project.

Once Deepseek v4 Pro and Pi became my goto model and harness, this project moved forward incredibly quickly and easily. Crawling was easily completed in just a few days, for a total cost of about $250 for all the LLM work.

Deepseek V4 Pro not only automatically wrote all the Playwright code needed to perform all the crawling tasks - live in unattended sessions - it also wrote all the public facing web application code (along with writing and performing the full suite of tests required to build the app). It autonomously performed the full crawling portion of the project, which required a lot of reasoned decisions, intuitive understanding of the sorts of natural language questions users might ask, etc. - all of which together, was a staggering long horizon feat that it completed with ease.

During that period, I also began using Deepseek v4 Pro to complete all my other production development efforts which weren't being handled in ChatGPT zip file workflows (see https://aibynick.com/thread/3). I additionally produced heaping piles of demo applications & games, and performed every imaginable computer control agentic task using Deepseek v4 Pro. It became my unrivaled go-to for local agentic work, without breaking the bank.

Around that time, Qwen 3.6 was released, and it became my default go-to for inference on local LLM servers. Those Qwen models are brilliantly capable at writing code, for the minimal hardware they require - but they don't have the world knowledge and deep intellectual capability that frontier models have.

So, I'm very comfortable giving CRUD database and basic UI development work, as well as simple agentic tasks, to every common quant of Qwen 3.6 35a3 and 27b. And Gemma 4 has been useful for some tasks which require vision. But when I need to do real engineering for bigger projects, I considered Deepseek v4 Pro the minimum model to employ.

Keep in mind that most of my big software development projects are still typically accomplished with the ChatGPT zip file workflow, since I get all my big projects done with it for $20/month, total - and GPT 5.5 is just so smart at understanding goals, and reasoning its way through complex engineering plans. I can often just give ChatGPT the requirements that my clients send by email, and software updates get built and tested automatically, in a few minutes, first shot, with GPT 5.5. As long as they're giving away all that intellectual power for $20, I'll be using it relentlessly.

Still, I know that unlimited subsidized GPT tokens for $20/month will be going away as soon as those OpenAI investor dollars get burned up, and I also do find myself needing local AI to deal with tasks that involve HIPAA compliance (I can't put PHI into any typical public LLM API). Additionally, my clients are starting to ask for self-hosted HIPAA compliant LLM API's, because services such as Bastion GPT cost a lot of money per million tokens.

So, local AI inference is becoming a much more critical priority for me and my clients. I've already gotten used to using a local collection of 3 Asus GX10s, 2 Strix Halo machines, and 3 other lesser machines with 3080 and 3090 class GPUs, every day to compete tasks.

The problem has been that not every task can be completed by small models like Qwen 3.6, and larger models like Deepseek v4 Pro require 10s of thousands of dollars of hardware to run. Most of my clients are quite ready to take that plunge.

Minimax M3 is a real contender for serious self-hosted LLM inference, but it still requires at very least 3 clustered DGX Sparks to run reliably - and Minimax Sparse Attention (which is required for usable million context window size) still isn't available in the GGUFs from Unsloth or other quants.

That's why my interest has turned solidly to Deepseek V4 Flash. It's possible to run a low bit quant of V4 Flash on a single DGX Spark, and a truly reliable quant can be run on a cluster as small as 2 Strix Halo machines. See this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfl3TS7ME5s

The quality of agentic task results demonstrated by Deepseek v4 Flash in that video are amazingly good: 90% on the Dwarfstar benchmarks (start watching at time stamp 16:48 in the video above to see those results).

On 2 DGX Spark machines, Deepseek V4 Flash is a natural fit, with expected speeds that are much faster than on clustered Strix Halo machines, due to the much faster native NVIDIA ConnectX-7 network connectors built into that platform.

So, I've been using V4 Flash to do a ton of daily driving lately, and it is remarkably capable, especially at typical daily coding, agentic tasks, reasoning, etc. And on Openrouter and elsewhere, the cost of V4 Flash is less that 1/4 that of V4 Pro - and it's ridiculously fast.

I've been using V4 Flash everywhere for the past week, for some significantly challenging work, and it has not needed the help of any bigger frontier model, at any point.

That really changes the game, for many reasons.

Not only is V4 Flash ridiculously cheap and capable, it can also be run locally. That makes all the difference for my clients who require complete control over data security.

I started my exploration of V4 Flash by building the same sorts of little vibe coded demos I do with every model - some quick CRUD apps such as a standard Northwind database flask example, some small games, 3D examples, website UI layouts, etc. For example, here are the results of just a few quick coding tests:

Here are a few more examples made by the Deepseek-v4-flash model - its really amazing how inexpensive and capable that model is!:

What shocked me was that many of the examples cost less than a penny to create (including a few of the games above), they were all completed in record time, and every example worked perfectly, first shot, out of the gate.

That was immediately impressive, but not necessarily representative of how well the model would handle challenging real life tasks. So I've been increasing the complexity dramatically, and V4 Flash has not let me down.

For example, today, I completed a personal project with V4 Flash, which I've been wanting to do for a while now. The goal was to set up voice control of Pi in Termux (Linux) on my Android phone, to interact with Termux API to provide device control of all typical Android functionalities.

The results of that work today, were mind blowing. Deepseek V4 Flash was able to write an extension module for Pi, to process voice prompts using the Android voice API (it's not otherwise possible in Pi, within Termux, to use native Android voice dictation).

Then Deepseek V4 Flash wrote all the code needed to interact with Termux API, which gives Termux the ability to control other native Android functionalities such as making calls, sending texts, accessing GPS and hardware sensors, etc. And of course, I completed all that work using my new Pi voice interface, directly on my phone :) (Beware that you need Termux and Termux API downloaded directly from F-droid, because Termux API does not work with the version from Google Play Store).

The combination of those two new features was really exciting. Now I can open Pi on my phone and use voice dictation to do virtually anything the device is capable of. I had V4 Flash update Pi's .md files/memory to codify everything that was learned about how to interact with voice inputs and the Termux API.

I subsequently had a blast telling Pi, on my phone, entirely with natural language, to perform tasks such as 'take a photo of me and share it with my girlfriend after I view and approve it' (my Pi install can perform the photo task because Termux API provides control of things like the camera and photo apps on Android). Then I told Pi to perform online research about one of my client's company, and to send them a few texts about the results, along with some texts I had it compose to explain what I was doing.

This sort of unbounded 'computer control' on my phone, matched with full natural voice interaction is truly useful stuff - it really opens up a whole new world of usability and functionality on my phone which enables me to be productive in ways that I've dreamed about for decades. The net effect is that I can just talk to my phone, to have it accomplish basically any sort of work. I could realistically have it complete large projects, without ever having to type a character. That's a real step change in the functional capability of my phone.

Deepseek V4 Flash completely crushed doing all the research, writing all the code, interacting with my development requests, and then running my queries. All the code was written flawlessly, at blindingly fast speed, first shot.

Now here's the kicker: all that work today required burning ~8.5 million tokens on Openrouter - and the entire cost for everything - all of the development work and all the interactivity involved in using the features I had built... cost $.34.

34 cents

That is genuinely game-changing.

For my clients, the v4 Flash model opens up the opportunity to buy some very reasonably priced local hardware - 2 Asus GX10s, for example - and to have powerful enough LLMs available to work with PHI in agentic tasks, entirely in-house. Those clients would otherwise spend far more on HIPAA compliant LLM API services such BastionGPT, in less than a year.

And of course, then there are so many other practical applications. Deepseek 4 is not multimodal, but that's fine. I've already seen models such as Qwen 3.6, Gemma 4, and Stepfun Flash 3.7 do a great job identifying wound images, for example.

Mimo-v2.5 is looking like another very capable, similarly inexpensive vision model which can also run on systems like those same clustered DGX Sparks. Mimo-v2.5 is likely my next medium-ish sized model to really put through the paces. It's impressive for a size that can be legitimately hosted locally.

Going forward, Deepseek V4 Flash will be my default choice for on-device agentic tasks, and likely for most small-to-medium sized software development tasks. It's so outrageously inexpensive for the capability it provides, it's fast, and it can be self-hosted. And if it ever needs help, I can just switch to another model at any point in any development process.

I love the idea of really getting to know exactly what I can expect of V4 Flash, in any situation - and then knowing which models are needed to replace it, for anything that it can't handle immediately out of the gate.

I can truly see a light at the end of tunnel, in which frontier models may not be required at all, for most typical commercial development work and agentic workflows.

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jun 25, 2026 at 11:00 (edited, 5 revisions)
#2

It should be noted that Deepseek V4 Flash doesn't currently run in LM Studio, Llama CPP, vLLM, or other common inference software, because it's architecture is different than other models, but everything you need to run it locally is here:

https://github.com/antirez/ds4

I can confirm that the q2-imatrix version of Deepseek V4 Flash runs within the ds4 software from that repository, on a single DGX Spark (Asus GX10) at about 10 tokens per second, with 300k context size.

I told Pi to install and run it (and the entire installation task used V4 Flash as the provider model on Openrouter, haha :) ), and it did everything without a hitch, including evaluating which quant to use, downloading the model, compiling and running the ds4 software, wiring up the new server as an available provider model in Pi, and documenting everything needed to install the whole thing on other machines.

Tomorrow I'll try the q4-imatrix quant of V4 Flash on 2 clustered DGX Spark machines. It should be a perfect fit, with enough VRAM left over for 1 million token context length, and excellent inference quality (the ds4 quants are quite different than other typical quantizations, because some important layers are compressed less than others, providing better accuracy where needed).

V4 Flash in ds4 certainly isn't the fastest model in my local stable, but I don't need to run it locally for most work. I love that I can use it for what feels like almost free, over the API from Deepseek directly, from Openrouter, Ollama, and plenty of other providers. And for clients who need HIPAA compliant in-house inference, it feels very close to frontier quality, on relatively inexpensive self-hosted hardware which doesn't require a new electrical panel installation.

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jun 22, 2026 at 12:17
#3

The q4-imatrix quant is running on 2 clustered Asus Gx10s at 11.5 tokens per second. This quant is very high quality and is working perfectly in Pi. I wish it was a bit faster, but it's certainly usable at that speed.

This is the closest I've seen my self-hosted models come to near-frontier capability.

I expect to continue using Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 for the overwhelming volume of self-hosted inference, because they reliably do very high quality work. The MOE versions of those models perform fast (especially with MTP in Qwen 3.6), and they're capable of completing most basic common coding and agentic tasks.

I'll use Deepseek V4 Flash as a supervisor and helper model, whenever those smaller models get stuck completing a task or otherwise need the deeper knowledge/capability available in V4 Flash (and/or if I don't mind having a task sit and run for longer at ~11.5 tps). I do think it's possible to significantly speed up how this model performs - I'll work on that next.

Below is a reference document which covers the process Pi used to install both the q2 version of V4 Flash on a single GX10 machine, and the q4 version on two clustered GX10s.

Just to note, I do have this setup running successfully over cloudflared, so it's available over HTTPS to any other application on the Internet (just like any OpenAI compatible API endpoint). I covered how to do that at https://aibynick.com/thread/42

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

DwarfStar (ds4) on ASUS GX10 — Complete Setup Guide

### 1. Single Machine Setup

Clone and build:

bash git clone https://github.com/antirez/ds4.git ~/ds4 cd ~/ds4 make cuda-spark # builds ds4, ds4-server, ds4-agent, ds4-bench, ds4-eval

Download a model:

bash ./download_model.sh q2-imatrix # 81 GB, fits single GX10 (121 GB RAM) ./download_model.sh q4-imatrix # 154 GB, needs 2 GX10s clustered

The ds4flash.gguf symlink points to whichever was downloaded last. Switch manually:

bash ln -sf gguf/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Q4K* ds4flash.gguf # use q4 ln -sf gguf/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-IQ2XXS* ds4flash.gguf # use q2

Run CLI:

bash ./ds4 --cuda -c 300000

Run server for Pi:

bash ./ds4-server --cuda --ctx 300000 --kv-disk-dir ~/.ds4/kvcache --kv-disk-space-mb 16384

### 2. Pi Integration (Single Machine)

~/.pi/agent/models.json — add the ds4 provider:

json { "providers": { "ds4": { "name": "ds4.c local", "baseUrl": "http://127.0.0.1:8000/v1", "api": "openai-completions", "apiKey": "dsv4-local", "compat": { "supportsStore": false, "supportsDeveloperRole": false, "supportsReasoningEffort": true, "supportsUsageInStreaming": true, "maxTokensField": "max_tokens", "supportsStrictMode": false, "thinkingFormat": "deepseek", "requiresReasoningContentOnAssistantMessages": true }, "models": [ { "id": "deepseek-v4-flash", "name": "DeepSeek V4 Flash (ds4.c local)", "reasoning": true, "thinkingLevelMap": { "off": null, "minimal": "low", "low": "low", "medium": "medium", "high": "high", "xhigh": "xhigh" }, "input": ["text"], "contextWindow": 300000, "maxTokens": 384000, "cost": { "input": 0, "output": 0, "cacheRead": 0, "cacheWrite": 0 } } ] }, ...existing providers... } }

~/.pi/agent/settings.json — set as default:

json { "defaultProvider": "ds4", "defaultModel": "deepseek-v4-flash", "defaultThinkingLevel": "high", "theme": "dark" }

Auto-start server on boot — user systemd service at ~/.config/systemd/user/ds4-server.service:

```ini
[Unit]
Description=ds4 (DwarfStar) DeepSeek V4 Flash inference server
After=network-online.target

[Service]
Type=simple
WorkingDirectory=/home/gb10a/ds4
ExecStart=/home/gb10a/ds4/ds4-server --ctx 300000 --kv-disk-dir /home/gb10a/.ds4/kvcache --kv-disk-space-mb 16384 --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8000 --cors
Restart=on-failure
RestartSec=10

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target
```

Enable: systemctl --user enable ds4-server.service
Start/stop: systemctl --user start|stop ds4-server.service
Logs: journalctl --user -u ds4-server -f

### 3. Two-Machine Distributed Cluster

Network: Both GX10s connected via fast network port (enp1s0f0np0). Link-local IPs auto-assigned.

Check IPs on each machine:

bash ip -br addr | grep enp1s0f0

Our setup: gx10a = 169.254.10.1, gx10c = 169.254.10.2

Layer split (43 layers total):

┌─────────┬─────────────┬────────────────────┬─────────────┐
│ Machine │ Role │ Layers │ Model slice │
├─────────┼─────────────┼────────────────────┼─────────────┤
│ gx10a │ coordinator │ 0:21 + output head │ ~79 GB │
├─────────┼─────────────┼────────────────────┼─────────────┤
│ gx10c │ worker │ 22:output │ ~74 GB │
└─────────┴─────────────┴────────────────────┴─────────────┘

To run:

```bash
# On both machines first (one-time):
cd ~/ds4 && ln -sf gguf/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Q4K* ds4flash.gguf

# 1. Start worker on gx10c:
cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4 --cuda --role worker --layers 22:output --coordinator 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000

# 2. Start CLI coordinator on gx10a (after worker is ready):
cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4 --cuda --role coordinator --layers 0:21 --listen 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000

# OR start server on gx10a for Pi integration:
cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4-server --cuda --role coordinator --layers 0:21 --listen 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000 --kv-disk-dir
~/.ds4/kvcache --kv-disk-space-mb 8192
```

Then Pi on gx10a connects to http://127.0.0.1:8000 normally.

### 4. Transferring to Another Machine

Via fast network port (200 Gb/s):

```bash
# Send ds4 source + binaries (skip GGUFs):
rsync -aP --progress --exclude='gguf/' ~/ds4/ user@169.254.x.x:~/ds4/

# Send GGUF model:
rsync -aP --progress ~/ds4/gguf/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Q4K* user@169.254.x.x:~/ds4/gguf/

# Send Pi configs:
rsync -aP ~/.pi/agent/models.json ~/.pi/agent/settings.json user@169.254.x.x:~/.pi/agent/

# Send systemd service:
rsync -aP ~/.config/systemd/user/ds4-server.service user@169.254.x.x:~/.config/systemd/user/ \
&& ssh user@169.254.x.x "systemctl --user daemon-reload && systemctl --user enable ds4-server.service"
```

Via USB drive (for offline setup): Copy the entire ~/ds4/ directory plus Pi configs and systemd service file. See earlier session
notes for exact file listing.

### 5. Quant Options

┌───────────────┬────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Quant │ Size │ Use Case │
├───────────────┼────────┼─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ q2-imatrix │ 81 GB │ Single GX10 (121 GB RAM). Leaves 40 GB for KV cache │
├───────────────┼────────┼─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ q4-imatrix │ 154 GB │ Two GX10s clustered (77 GB each). Best quality │
├───────────────┼────────┼─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ q2-q4-imatrix │ 98 GB │ Single high-end or clustered mid-range │
└───────────────┴────────┴─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

### 6. Performance Reference

┌────────────────────────────┬───────┬──────────────────────────┬────────────┐
│ Setup │ Quant │ Prefill │ Generation │
├────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────┤
│ Single GX10 (q2) │ 2-bit │ ~31 t/s │ ~11.5 t/s │
├────────────────────────────┼───────┼──────────────────────────┼────────────┤
│ Two GX10s distributed (q4) │ 4-bit │ ~350+ t/s (long prompts) │ ~9-12 t/s │
└────────────────────────────┴───────┴──────────────────────────┴────────────┘

### 7. Files That Need Backing Up

┌───────────────────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────┐
│ File │ Purpose │
├───────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
│ ~/ds4/ │ All source, binaries, GGUFs, symlinks │
├───────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
│ ~/.pi/agent/models.json │ Pi provider config │
├───────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
│ ~/.pi/agent/settings.json │ Pi default provider/model │
├───────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────┤
│ ~/.config/systemd/user/ds4-server.service │ Auto-start service │
└───────────────────────────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────┘

To restart the distributed cluster from scratch

On both machines first (only needed once — already done):

bash cd ~/ds4 && ln -sf gguf/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-Q4K* ds4flash.gguf

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

On gx10c (worker) — run this first:

bash cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4 --cuda --role worker --layers 22:output --coordinator 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

On gx10a (coordinator) — run this after worker is loaded:

bash cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4-server --cuda --role coordinator --layers 0:21 --listen 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000 --kv-disk-dir ~/.ds4/kvcache --kv-disk-space-mb 8192

Pi connects to http://127.0.0.1:8000 automatically. If using the CLI instead of the server, replace the last command with:

bash cd ~/ds4 && ./ds4 --cuda --role coordinator --layers 0:21 --listen 169.254.10.1 1234 --ctx 200000

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jun 22, 2026 at 12:32
#4

Here's a copy of the full Pi session used to install Deepseek V4 Flash:

https://com-pute.com/nick/pi-session-2026-06-21T23-40-57-123Z_019eec8f-07a3-7714-b5b7-0b98745e4fe4.html

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jun 22, 2026 at 12:33
#5

Here's a sample of output from the clustered version of V4 Flash (most little models don't do as well with this question):

please tell me about the most popular brands of wings and engines used in paramotoring. Please don't use tools for this.

The user is asking about paramotoring (powered paragliding) equipment - specifically the most popular brands of wings (paragliders)
and engines used in paramotoring. They've asked me not to use tools, so I'll answer from my knowledge.

Popular Paramotoring Brands

Here's an overview of the most well-known brands in paramotoring, split by wings and engines.

🪂 Wings (Paragliders / Paramotor Wings)

These are specialized paraglider wings designed to work with a motor:

  1. Ozone – Probably the single most recognized brand. Their Ozone Roadster and Ozone Viper series are extremely popular for
    paramotoring. Known for durability, solid inflation, and wide performance range.

  2. Dudek – Very popular in Europe. The Dudek Universal and Dudek Nucleus are widely used. They make a huge range of wings from
    beginner to competition level.

  3. Niviuk – Known for the Niviuk Kougar and Niviuk Peak series. Strong reputation for build quality and handling.

  4. Mac Para – The Mac Para Muse is one of the most popular beginner/intermediate paramotor wings on the market. Good value and solid performance.

  5. Gin Gliders – The Gin Yeti and Gin Explorer are common choices. Gin is a long-established brand in free-flight paragliding that
    also makes excellent paramotor wings.

  6. Apco – The Apco Lift series is a very popular entry-level to intermediate paramotor wing. Known for being forgiving and easy to
    launch.

  7. Sky Paragliders – The Sky Brontes is a well-regarded paramotor-specific wing.

⚙️ Engines / Power Units

Paramotor engines are mostly lightweight, high-performance two-strokes (and some four-strokes):

  1. Vittorazi (Italy) – The absolute dominant brand. The Vittorazi Moster 185 is the single most popular paramotor engine in the
    world. Light, powerful, and reliable. They also make the Vittorazi Atom 80 (smaller/lighter) and the newer Vittorazi Moster 185
    Plus.

  2. Polini (Italy) – A very close second. The Polini Thor 130, Polini Thor 200, and Polini Thor 250 are widely used. Polini also
    makes paramotor frames and complete units.

  3. Simonini (Italy) – The Simonini Mini 2 Plus and Simonini Victor 1 are popular, especially with pilots who want more power (the
    Victor 1 is a 200cc+ engine). Known for being robust.

  4. Cors-Air (France) – The Cors-Air Black Devil (various sizes like 125, 180, 200) is a well-known engine line. They have a loyal
    following.

  5. Kawasaki / Bailey – The Kawasaki 440 (converted snowmobile engine) and Bailey V5 are classic, older-style four-stroke engines.
    Heavier but very smooth and reliable. Less common now but still around.

  6. Air Conception (Italy) – The Air Conception Nitro 200 is a modern, clean-design engine gaining popularity.

🔧 Complete Paramotor Units (Frame + Engine)

Many pilots buy complete "paramotor units" from manufacturers who combine a frame with one of the above engines:

  • PAP (Polini Paramotors) – Makes complete units with Polini engines.
  • Fresh Breeze – German brand known for their Skipper and Monster units (often with Simonini or Vittorazi engines).
  • Paramotor Italia – Makes the Fly 125 and Fly 200 units (often with Vittorazi Moster).
  • Miniplane – French brand, makes lightweight units with their own Top 80 engine.

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Quick summary: If you're looking at the most common setup you'll see at a paramotor field, it's likely an Ozone Roadster wing paired with a Vittorazi Moster 185 engine. That combination has been the "gold standard" for years.

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 06, 2026 at 01:02 (edited, 1 revision)
#6

I made a little SQLite manager this morning with Deepseek V4 Flash:

http://1y1z.com:5945

That whole project cost $2.31 on OpenRouter, because I went through lots of iterations to build a pile of little detailed features exactly the way I wanted them, but the original core app cost just a few pennies. I was impressed with how deeply v4 Flash was able to successfully create and edit many versions of features, and how intuitively it understood what I wanted. It's really capable with Flask.

What really shocked me about this little project was that I got a significantly better result from Deepseek v4 Flash, than I did with ChatGPT 🤯

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 06, 2026 at 01:07 (edited, 1 revision)
#7

BTW, the prompt to build that app was:

We need to build a flask application that provides full CRUD management of all schema and data in a sqlite database. Users need to be able to select/edit/delete existing databases or create new databases, select/edit/delete existing tables or create new tables, select/edit/delete existing columns or create new columns, select/edit/delete existing rows or create new rows, and select/edit/delete existing cell values or create new cell values - all in a visual UI that requires no code (although users should have the option to manually edit all SQL code for any operation). The UI should consist largely of datatable grids with filters for any column, and multisort column headers which enable any combination of sorted fields (sort by 1 column, then within that sort, sub-sort by another column, ascending/descending, etc.). The UI should also enable editable column headers which change the name of the fields in each tables. The UI also needs to enable inline editing of data values, copy-pasting of individual cell values, columns of cell values, and grids of cell values. There must be a way for users to add and manage relationship columns in the schema (foreign keys to other tables). To use foreign key relationships in the table/cell datatable editing UI, there should be relationship columns along with all the other columns, which display dropdown selections of all the row values in linked tables. The UI should enable users to easily export and import data to/from CSV and JSON. Existing sqlite files should also be uploadable and downloadable. Please work in baby steps, because we're using a local GPU server that has limited resources.

Note from the future: I ran that prompt on my local install of ds4 on a single DGX spark, and got: https://com-pute.com/nick/sqlite-manager3--deepseek-ds4-q2.zip

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 04, 2026 at 01:54 (edited, 3 revisions)
#8

UPDATE:

I've been using Deepseek V4 Flash as my daily driver ever since the first post in this topic, and haven't looked back. It's absolutely fantastic. It hasn't failed me yet in a massive pile of agentic tasks and lots of software development work.

I'm now using the cline-pass API for even less expensive inference cost, and extremely fast API performance. I keep the OpenRouter and https://api.deepseek.com APIs set up as backups.

I absolutely recommend trying cline-pass for all your open source API model inference. It's an amazing buy, especially with Deepseek V4 Flash. See https://aibynick.com/thread/51 .

For self-hosting, I've been very happy with the Antirez DS4 q2 quant of V4 Flash, which runs on a single DGX Spark machine. That quant is not a normal 2 bit compression - it leaves some select layers in the model all the way at 8 bit precision, and on a DGX Spark, it loads fully and leaves lots of room for KV Cache (I've been running with 300k cache). If I need better quality, the DS4 q4 quant runs on 2 clustered DGX Sparks, with even more headroom. It's awesome to have a locally hosted version of exactly the same model I'm using via the APIs for all my daily work.

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 08, 2026 at 02:29 (edited, 6 revisions)
#9

I think it's worth providing some more details about my experience using Deepseek V4 Flash, and some additional perspective about why it's becoming a favored model.

I'll reiterate here that I still use my $20/month zip file workflow in ChatGPT (https://aibynick.com/thread/3) to work on all the largest software projects. I began using that process during the past year, and I'll continue to take advantage of that workflow for as long as OpenAI continues to give away apparently limitless world class inference for $20 per month.

Aside from that workflow, I've settled on doing all my other work with Deepseek V4 Flash first.

To clarify some context about the sorts of agentic tasks Deepseek V4 Flash has been able to complete for me, here are some examples:

I ran Deepseek to perform the local install of DS4 on a self hosted DGX Spark. This's a pretty meta task - using a remotely hosted Deepseek model to install Deepseek locally. That process required the V4 Flash model I was using on OpenRouter, to complete research about which quant to choose for the machine architecture and hardware resources available on my local machine, then download all the required tools, perform the compilation, from source of all the software components needed to run DS4 on DGX's ARM platform, in Ubuntu OS (those compilations steps were not a trivial undertaking, and V4 Flash aced them effortlessly). Then after sourcing and compiling all the parts, it fully installed, configured, tested, and benchmarked the 2 bit version of Deepseek v4 Flash on that local DGX machine - until I had a fully working local installation. That entire installation was completed hands off. Then next, it configured all the networking and software settings required to distribute DS4 across a cluster of 2 locally connected DGX machines. It did all that work from start to finish, without a hitch - and then it documented the entire process, so that it could be duplicated on other servers. Finding a human with enough knowledge to complete all those steps reliably, is a hard thing to do - and no person could accomplish those steps as fast as V4 Flash was able to.

And here's the thing: V4 Flash can perform that same sort of complex research/source/compile/install procedure with any of millions of other software packages, just as quickly and easily. No single person has the breadth of knowledge and experience to do all those things as well. In that way, V4 Flash is above the threshold of any single human's ability to accomplish all computer/tech related tasks, at least when time and resource constraints are taken into consideration.

So, I've been using v4 Flash to perform every other sort of system configuration task imaginable. For example, when I set up Cline-pass API, I had v4 Flash create the prompts and files needed to configure Pi on all my other local laptop machines, my VPS server accounts, my phone, etc. - and also to configure PicoClaw on my phone and tablets (adding Cline-pass instantly as a provider for all those machines). Trying to do that manually would otherwise have taken many more hours of my life.

And the same is true for all other grinding configuration routines that go into supporting my clients. I used v4 Flash to configure all the Cloudflared connections for all the LLM APIs I have running on local server machines - more than 100 models spread across 7 machines at different locations - so now every client I ever want to give access to those local models, can be configured instantly.

Having a smart, capable, exceedingly inexpensive assistant that works like a pro, at the speed of light, to effortlessly complete such tasks, adds a dramatic improvement to the productivity and quality of my life.

I've had V4 Flash clean up old docker containers, forgotten running scripts, and no longer used environments on servers. I've had it find duplicate files, and misplaced files, across multiple hard drives attached to a machine. I've had it configure Rustdesk on multiple machines. I've had it discover why machines are running thermally hot. I've had it adjust power, sleep, and login settings on every common OS. I've had it build deeply capable device control automations on my phone. I've had it write and run browser control automations to log into accounts to compile daily dashboard summaries of private information. I've had it build automated email response bots. I've had it investigate why machines shut down unexpectedly. I've had it explain significantly sized code base structures and provide documentation for complex systems. I've used it regularly to research general world knowledge, to complete steps in virtually every sort of daily work. I've used it to write emails to clients and IT teams, to answer personal curiosity questions, to find the perfect joke for a special moment, to discuss philosophy, to write lyrics to songs, to download and install software of all sorts, etc., etc., etc.

But that's just the beginning.

I've been absolutely floored at the software development capabilities of this littler model. It works much more like the current frontier models than even the best small competitors such as Qwen 3.6. Qwen 3.6 is undeniably remarkably capable for a small model. A year ago we wouldn't have believed Qwen 3.6 was possible. In fact, I still think Qwen 3.6 MOE MTP is an extraordinarily useful model, because it's just so strikingly capable for its size (really I don't think any comparably sized model is as capable at coding), and it runs fast even on GPUs with only 16BG VRAM. For local inference, Qwen 3.6 is the cornerstone model for local inference on consumer grade hardware. It makes every machine I have with a GPU, useful at completing all sorts of generative AI tasks - but Deepseek v4 Flash is, nevertheless, much, much better. V4 Flash feels more like using GPT and other frontier models, than a small model like Qwen 3.6. It's just so smart and capable.

And that's not solely a subjective opinion. Whereas Qwen 3.6 performs about like a GPT-4 class model on benchmarks, Deepseek V4 Flash significantly outperforms GPT-4 across nearly all metrics. V4 Flash genuinely rivals models like GPT-5.5 and Claude Opus 4.7 on the benchmarks, so you can feel confident trusting it to complete tasks you give it. V4 Flash seems to always solidly understand not only the problem at hand, but all the surrounding context around a given goal, and it gets the job done skillfully, every time.

The killer features of v4 Flash are how cheap and fast it runs, over any of the well known API service providers - and just as important, it's great that so many LLM API services make it available (Openrouter, Ollama, Deepseek.com, DigitalOcean, Fireworks, Cline-pass, and many more). You don't have to worry about a single API going down in the middle of a project, or the model disappearing from the ecosystem.

Just now, on a Monday at 1:45pm East Coast US time, I spot-tested V4 Flash's performance. It's currently consistently working at 176 tokens per second on the Cline-pass API, in Pi coding agent. Openrouter is noticeably slower at the moment, but still clocks along at 110 tps, and the Deepseek.com API is returning a smoking 198 tps! You don't get that sort of speed from any of the other big frontier models.

Plus, pre-fill speed for very large input contexts is even more outrageously fast with V4 Flash - and don't forget that it has a truly usable 1 million token context window. None of the frontier models beat that limit. That means V4 Flash can chomp through enormous input contexts faster than any other model that approaches frontier quality. That generally makes it the performance winner for long context agentic tasks.

Speeds like that are a big part of what make V4 Flash so effective in practice, with real-life tasks. Because it can iterate so quickly, it can often find, test, and complete the best working solutions to a problem, faster than a bigger, smarter model can generate a first attempted solution. It can get to the better final solution more effectively, in less time, even if it needs to go through more steps, because it can work through those steps so ridiculously quickly. This isn't just a conceptual win - it's exactly what I'm experiencing empirically, over and over again, in real life tasks.

And of course, the speed of V4 Flash makes it an utter joy to work with. It can accomplish so many things instantly. You don't have to wait. It's satisfying and encouraging to see work get accomplished so quickly. What a relief, what a practical benefit, and what fun it is to use.

V4 Flash is clearly built for agentic tool use and coding - to me it feels basically as good in those domains as the frontier models. In any situation where it lacks knowledge, it makes up for that lack of knowledge in iterative speed. Just let it run in a loop, and you'll get a working solution. It's smart enough to know how to plan complete goals, how to complete required research, how to test its own output, etc. When you use it for a lot of tasks, you'll see, it is capable like a frontier model.

V4 Flash has been much more effective for me, for example, than Minimax M3. I thought M3 was a marvel when I first tried it, but V4 Flash has just been undeniably better all around than M3. Of course, V4 Flash doesn't know as much about arcane and obscure topics as the trillion parameter models such as GLM 5.2 and Kimi K2.7, but for building Flask apps, coding in Python, etc., it's a consummate pro.

I just don't feel like I give up anything moving from Deepseek V4 Pro (or from any other frontier model, for that matter) to V4 Flash. In many cases, I've actually preferred the output from V4 Flash, over that of bigger models. V4 Flash is in a very different class than the typical few hundred billion parameter models which compete with it for potential use on pro-sumer local GPU hardware.

After many dozens of hands-on hours working with V4 Flash on a massive variety of development and general computing tasks, I'm left with a genuine sense that it works at a frontier quality level, for all practical purposes, for most mainstream coding and agentic work. It simply does not disappoint.

And finally, Deepseek V4 Flash costs $.09/$.14 per million tokens input/output on OpenRouter - less than 1/4 the cost of V4 Pro - and remember that V4 Pro already costs a small fraction of what all the other frontier models cost. Now, additionally consider that I've been running V4 Flash on the Cline-pass API. They advertise 2x-5x the volume of usage for the same cost, compared to other LLM API providers, and from what I've seen, that claim appears to be true.

So with the V4 Flash API I've been using, we're talking about a model that's dozens of times less expensive than the most common large open-source models, and hundreds of times less expensive than the mainstream closed source frontier models.

That orders-of-magnitude difference means using V4 Flash on Cline-pass has seemed like it's basically free to run, in comparison to other models. For less then $7 per month (at the yearly Cline-pass rate), virtually endless pro-quality inference is available sustainably.

Remember also that Deepseek has the best cache rate cost of any model, by far, at $.018 (less than 2 cents per million), so if you're using an agent which does well with generating cache hits, you're going to see a large majority of input token during long agentic processes being charged that ridiculously low rate. It's outrageously inexpensive to use.

That cost changes how work gets done, because you can use it to complete virtually any computing task which can be automated, without worrying about cost at all. Projects which cost hundreds of dollars a few months ago, now get done for less than a buck. If you compare that to using Fable, you'll likely spend thousands of times more per million tokens with Fable.

Don't get me wrong, Fable is a real marvel - it's genius level in many domains. That's so exciting to see, but you certainly don't need Fable for most daily business tasks, or for most mainstream software development work tasks - no more than you need a genius with a degree from Harvard to operate a cash register. Routine work in many business environments is relatively simple, and V4 Flash is more capable than most people are at completing the majority of daily development work tasks, IT tasks, research tasks, etc.

The ridiculously low cost and high speed of V4 Flash offers a step change in the volume of typical work you can complete with an LLM. Imagine how much more work you could get done in your business if human labor cost a few pennies per hour, and your employees could work 100,000 times faster.

That level of changed expectations is what V4 Flash has materialized for me lately.

Add to all that, the fact that we can run the same Deepseek V4 Flash model available on public APIs, using what's proved to be a reliable framework and quantization method (DS4), on a single self-hosted DGX Spark (or cluster 2 DGX sparks for top tier quality and more headroom for long context KV cache), and you get the same familiar and trusted output from a model that has been put through the ringer repeatedly. It's a tremendously beneficial situation to have the same trusted,, well understood model available in your local self-hosted environment.

That trusted experience means I can recommend V4 Flash to my clients who have only modest budgets for in-house inference (especially those who must heed privacy and compliance constraints, which keep them from using any affordable mainstream LLM API services), and I can trust that frontier quality coding and agentic capability is available for all their toughest tasks. Sure, I'll use Qwen 3.6 for fast responses to easy tasks, and Gemma 4 for vision and tandem work with Qwen 3.6. Plus I have other favorites such as Stepfun 3.7 Flash, the bigger Qwen 3.5 models, Nemotron Super, etc. for knowledge lookup, and as an additional agentic worker in the mix, but Deepseek V4 Flash can be trusted as the adult in the room.

In a locally hosted setup, enable Deepseek V4 Flash to judge, monitor, filter, fix, guide, and coordinate the work of a stable of other capable smaller, faster sub-agent models, and you've got the foundation for LLM routing which works as fast and effectively as frontier APIs.

Oh, and don't forget that using Deepseek V4 Flash is better for the environment. It doesn't use anywhere near the energy or hardware resources required to run the bigger frontier class models.

I finally feel like I have one model that does everything needed to replace the majority of my frontier model API use, with incredible performance, great intelligence, ridiculously low cost, and which is also self-hostable without having to install a new electric service panel in the building - and most small businesses can afford to buy the hardware needed to run it in house. V4 Flash has been the model I've been waiting for, since the beginning of the age of LLMs.

Nick Antonaccio
Nick AntonaccioAdmin
Jul 08, 2026 at 02:19 (edited, 7 revisions)
#10

I just tested the deepseek.com API again at 11:21pm New York time, and now it's chugging along at 254 tokens per second. At that rate, the API is producing 1 million tokens in just over an hour. 1 million tokens per hour get lots of software written, and lots of tasks completed. At that rate you don't need a genius LLM. This hard working, inexpensive model has plenty of intelligence, and is able to get requests completed because it iterates relentlessly through planning, research, build, and test loops, at a speed that other smart enough models can't match.

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